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I mean, I guess I should have known something was up when God sent the plague of midges or whatever to torment those fiends and y'all didn't post anything praising His name.

Well, go Sox.

We're actually all yankees fans.

Quote:Well, go Sox.

Somewhere along the way you indicated that you had thrown them over the rails. Change of heart?

waynehead Wrote:We're actually all yankees fans.

No wonder your rep is -33.

Phase 1 Complete (also 1A and 1B-- that is, no Dodgers nor other teams from noo yawk)

Next, a Pox upon the Sox

:cleveland: :tam: :indians:

^one of those should work

74, really, I'm no kind of fan. You're remembering that I gave up baseball almost completely when I was 13 in 1986 when John McNamara [sent] every Boston fan up the [river] with his pathetic mismanagement of a certain World Series game. (And then DID give it up completely when Wade Boggs went to the Yankees.)

But I still know enough to have laughed heartily at the Yankler youth in the stands last night and said "Aww, look at all those sad faces, all on the verge of tears, maybe they can go drown their sorrows with A-Rod at the strip club" so that my wife looked at me in horror.

Could it be that an invasion luminaire from up north, a kinder, gentler (fn. 1) carpetbagger type of thing, stimulate this environment? I'll certainly play. Obviously, I'm pleased with the outcome of the series in question. The better team won, a team with much stronger pitching and it was this difference in pitching that was the story of this series.

So, we now have a matchup in the AL of its two best teams, not just of record but of obvious fact. The winner should proceed to the World Series as a pretty strong betting favorite--on paper at least, God only knows about that momentum thingie.

And, what of these Yankees and Steinbrenner, Torre and all those players who respect him so? I, too, greatly respect Joe Torre. He has been a truly great leader for teams that have unparalleled tradition, pride and even more importantly, mystique. How this man has endured New York and the myriad abrasive edges up there, I don't know. I do not, though, want the media to pig out on this story to the detriment of the impending matchup between the Tribe and the bosox. But, of course, they will.

A statement---those who hate the Yankees so, for their payroll reminiscent of our national debt, AND who love the bosox, I have a question. Do you not see that the bosox organization, with it's "new policy" leadership, is little more than a second ugly hideous head on this monstrosity that is the current unfair "system" that is major league baseball? For all the underdog persona they would choose to create, they are, in fact, little more than that smaller head on the beast with razor-sharp teeth and saliva strands that reach the waist. The eyes are red and angry though totally confused, confused about their positioning as some sort of "team of the people."

Howdy Statesmith--good to see your name.

FOOTNOTES:
1. A term initially used by the idiot's father but used much more effectively by musician Neil Young.

What I like is how even though Jeter was so bad in this series (3 hits, 3 double play grounders, no walks) the New York Post, despite having a brief article on Captain Clutch's failings, still went with the symbol for Yankee failure as its back cover subject:

sums up NY Sports nicely^

I just read a disturbing piece that raises an issue that has been hinted at but not raised. Steinbrenner might not be be mentally competent to hire and fire. This is based on a writer sneaking into his home and writing that Steinbrenner wandered around the house in his pajamas mid-afternoon and repeatedly acknowledged his old 'friend' (the means of the writer's invitation) and did not even seem to see the writer. This might mean nothing. Steinbrenner could have been medicated that day. However, other indicators are that Steinbrenner does not make the sort of public statements that he used to. He speaks through a publicist according to the article.
As much as I have disliked the man in the past, if he is truly senile I feel very sorry for him and hope that he does not embarrass himself.

I assume you meant to end that paragraph with "embarrass himself [i]further."[i]

I had not heard that about Steinbrenner, though I will admit that I have always thought of the man as precisely as he was depicted on Seinfeld. He has, though, always had a rash tongue even when he was at his peak.

So, who would step in here to make the determination as to whether the man is competent or not? Surely, his recent statements are evidence of nothing---such statements are completely in character.

True, he wasn't senile when he had Billy Martin on a yo-yo.

His partners or other shareholders in the business (members of an LLC)-- whoever are the other members of the entity of which he has, iirc, often been described as the Managing Partner--- they would owe a fiduciary obligation to the business to determine if the Manager(s) are making sound business decisions.

BTTM-GingT.

Yankee fans, join us now in our Hobbesian world. we know you want to buy your way out of it, and perhaps you can do this for a time. but one can never buy one's way out of one's humanity, permanently...can one?

Quote:Whatsoever therefore is consequent to a time of war, where every man is enemy to every man, the same consequent to the time wherein men live without other security than what their own strength and their own invention shall furnish them withal. In such condition there is no place for industry, because the fruit thereof is uncertain: and consequently no culture of the earth; no navigation, nor use of the commodities that may be imported by sea; no commodious building; no instruments of moving and removing such things as require much force; no knowledge of the face of the earth; no account of time; no arts; no letters; no society; and which is worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death; and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.

there is no commodious building, bro. the fruit of your industry is uncertain as all [he]ck. to say the least

Damn! When a man starts quoting Thomas Hobbes, without dropping a "Calvin" for balance, one begins to worry. Not that I disagree with the sentiment.

I do recall one summer long ago. I was on the verge of a vacation trip to the beach and was arranging reading material. It came down to a battle between "Portnoy's Complaint" and "Leviathan." Portnoy won.

So does that mean you think Torre is a goner?

this board can only survive through the judicious use of guest-star threads like this one.


otherwise, 'tis doomed. can't see it making it to the Hot Stove league, much less opening day, despite the best efforts of the rocking-chair-on-the-porch set, waving their canes and gibbering toothlessly at one another of the Golden Days of Yore.


i'd suggest setting up some sort of rotating guest list, but the effort of just posting the minor thoughts above wearies me so

Someday maybe not too far into the future it'll just be spike around here, posting threads and replying to himself...

Sal Wrote:this board can only survive through the judicious use of guest-star threads like this one.

If that is what it takes, it is not worth the effort. Pack pride Sports has more traffic and posts on the two or three or four threads on the first two pages about baseball topics than is on here in a week. I think Spike is right, it is not that baseball lacks followers, it is that posters have not found their way here or having done so, not found it to be lively enough.

Cliques rule!!!!!!!!!!111

Okay, back to my rocking chair; that burst of protest took as much out of my lungs as my knees.

I jinxed the Indians and D-Backs for merely showing preference.

Go Rockies? Yeargh....