08-15-2007, 08:38 AM
Schedule will be out this week and most opponents are already known.
Though both rivalries like to belittle the other's OOC, and take about how much discretion is exercised versus mandatory ACC and ACC/B10 match-ups, I find them pretty comparable with slight edge to UNC.
From another board where I posted: that was just a compilation I did from a bunch of pre-season prediction links.
Not sure what difference it makes whether Athletic Director/ Coach K used selectivity or inherited a league or ACC/Big10 match-up.
At end of the day, RPI is driven by who they play, regardless of how much choice they had in the matter.
UNC for example has 19 but with some higher ranked ones, and also some more questionable mid majors more typical of a Duke schedule past few years
Duke UNC Top 50 Opponent [Order below is attempt at ranking the Opponent, not order games are played in]
02-02 00-00 UNC [Duke plays UNC twice and total Top 50 so far =2, UNC of course does not play UNC so total so far is zero]
00-02 01-01 Louisville [Duke does not play Louisv so total remains 2 so far and UNC plays Louisv so total so far is one]
00-02 02-03 Duke [Duke remains at 2 so far and UNC plays Duke twice so total is now 3, etc]
01-03 00-03 Marquette (cumulative equal @ 3)
00-03 01-04 Ohio St
01-04 01-05 GA Tech
02-06 02-07 NC St
01-07 00-07 Pitt (cumulative equal @ 7)
00-07 01-08 U K
01-08 00-08 Wisc (cumulative equal @ 8)
02-10 01-09 UVA
01-11 -2-11 Clemson (cumulative equal @ 11)
01-12 01-12 Davidson (cumulative equal @ 12)
01-13 00-12 Illinois
02-15 01-13 Maryland
01-16 02-15 B C
00-16 01-16 Nevada (cumulative equal @ 16)
00-16 01-17 Kent St
00-16 01-18 UCSB
00-16 01-19 Penn
Common opponents are GA T (1), NC St (2), Davidson, with differences in how many times they play some ACC top 50 teams
UVA and MD each play Duke 2 and UNC 1;
Clemson and BC each plays Duke 1 and UNC 2.
but neither had any discretion in the matter, for what that is worth.
with the relative strengths of MD-UVA and Clemson-BC almost a wash anyway.
The strength at the top also alternates:
UNC plays Louisville, Duke plays Marquette,
UNC plays Ohio St, Duke plays Pitt,
UNC plays UK, Duke plays Wisc,
Both play Davidson,
Duke plays Illini, and UNC plays Nevada-Kent St-UCSB and Penn, kinds of teams UNC fans have minimized when Duke was playing them last few years.
So Duke has one more game against power conferences while UNC has 4 more games against better mid-majors. Duke plays one more Big East and UNC plays an SEC with both playing one B10 by necessity.
Fortunately UNC has no new guys to bring up to speed this year as first OOC game is a difficult matchup with Davidson and ACC first 4 starts out pretty tough too, though at home with Clemson where streak prevails, NC State, at GA Tech, home vs MD, the four teams besides Duke and UNC expected to finish in top 6.
Good for UNC to get the GA T and NC State teams early before they can determine who their PG is going to be.
Though both rivalries like to belittle the other's OOC, and take about how much discretion is exercised versus mandatory ACC and ACC/B10 match-ups, I find them pretty comparable with slight edge to UNC.
From another board where I posted: that was just a compilation I did from a bunch of pre-season prediction links.
Not sure what difference it makes whether Athletic Director/ Coach K used selectivity or inherited a league or ACC/Big10 match-up.
At end of the day, RPI is driven by who they play, regardless of how much choice they had in the matter.
UNC for example has 19 but with some higher ranked ones, and also some more questionable mid majors more typical of a Duke schedule past few years
Duke UNC Top 50 Opponent [Order below is attempt at ranking the Opponent, not order games are played in]
02-02 00-00 UNC [Duke plays UNC twice and total Top 50 so far =2, UNC of course does not play UNC so total so far is zero]
00-02 01-01 Louisville [Duke does not play Louisv so total remains 2 so far and UNC plays Louisv so total so far is one]
00-02 02-03 Duke [Duke remains at 2 so far and UNC plays Duke twice so total is now 3, etc]
01-03 00-03 Marquette (cumulative equal @ 3)
00-03 01-04 Ohio St
01-04 01-05 GA Tech
02-06 02-07 NC St
01-07 00-07 Pitt (cumulative equal @ 7)
00-07 01-08 U K
01-08 00-08 Wisc (cumulative equal @ 8)
02-10 01-09 UVA
01-11 -2-11 Clemson (cumulative equal @ 11)
01-12 01-12 Davidson (cumulative equal @ 12)
01-13 00-12 Illinois
02-15 01-13 Maryland
01-16 02-15 B C
00-16 01-16 Nevada (cumulative equal @ 16)
00-16 01-17 Kent St
00-16 01-18 UCSB
00-16 01-19 Penn
Common opponents are GA T (1), NC St (2), Davidson, with differences in how many times they play some ACC top 50 teams
UVA and MD each play Duke 2 and UNC 1;
Clemson and BC each plays Duke 1 and UNC 2.
but neither had any discretion in the matter, for what that is worth.
with the relative strengths of MD-UVA and Clemson-BC almost a wash anyway.
The strength at the top also alternates:
UNC plays Louisville, Duke plays Marquette,
UNC plays Ohio St, Duke plays Pitt,
UNC plays UK, Duke plays Wisc,
Both play Davidson,
Duke plays Illini, and UNC plays Nevada-Kent St-UCSB and Penn, kinds of teams UNC fans have minimized when Duke was playing them last few years.
So Duke has one more game against power conferences while UNC has 4 more games against better mid-majors. Duke plays one more Big East and UNC plays an SEC with both playing one B10 by necessity.
Fortunately UNC has no new guys to bring up to speed this year as first OOC game is a difficult matchup with Davidson and ACC first 4 starts out pretty tough too, though at home with Clemson where streak prevails, NC State, at GA Tech, home vs MD, the four teams besides Duke and UNC expected to finish in top 6.
Good for UNC to get the GA T and NC State teams early before they can determine who their PG is going to be.